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    <title type="text">Shauns Music</title>
    <subtitle type="text">Shauns Music:The Music of Shaun Groves</subtitle>
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    <updated>2007-08-13T07:03:11Z</updated>
    <rights>Copyright (c) 2007, Shaun Groves</rights>
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    <entry>
      <title>I Needed A Reason</title>
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      <id>tag:shaungroves.com,2007:index.php/9.1393</id>
      <published>2007-08-13T07:00:00Z</published>
      <updated>2007-08-13T07:03:11Z</updated>
      <author>
            <name>Shaun Groves</name>
            <email>shaunfanmail@bellsouth.net</email>
            <uri>http://shaungroves.com</uri>      </author>

      <category term="Musicians"
        scheme="http://www.shaungroves.com/music/C47/"
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        <p>I needed a reason to buy a rap record.&nbsp; And I got one.
</p>
<p>
50 Cent says:
</p>
<blockquote><p>&#8220;Let&#8217;s raise the stakes. If Kanye West sells more records than 50 Cent on September 11, I&#8217;ll no longer write music. I&#8217;ll write music and work with my other artists, but I won&#8217;t put out any more solo albums.&#8221;</p></blockquote>
<p>
A good reason to buy the Kanye West record on September 11th.&nbsp; I&#8217;m marking my calendar.
</p> 
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    </entry>

    <entry>
      <title>Robbie Seay For (Almost) Free</title>
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      <id>tag:shaungroves.com,2007:index.php/9.1373</id>
      <published>2007-08-07T12:57:00Z</published>
      <updated>2007-08-07T13:00:25Z</updated>
      <author>
            <name>Shaun Groves</name>
            <email>shaunfanmail@bellsouth.net</email>
            <uri>http://shaungroves.com</uri>      </author>

      <category term="Musicians"
        scheme="http://www.shaungroves.com/music/C47/"
        label="Musicians" />
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        <p>Robbie Seay Band is offering two songs <a href="http://www.shaungroves.com/shlog/comments/sorta_free_mockingbird/">for (almost)</a> free at <a href="http://freersb.com/">freersb.com</a>.&nbsp; Hop on over and check out <a href="http://www.brianseay.wordpress.com">Brian</a>&#8216;s little brother&#8217;s band.
</p> 
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    </entry>

    <entry>
      <title>Going The Way Of The Travel Agent</title>
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      <id>tag:shaungroves.com,2007:index.php/9.1356</id>
      <published>2007-07-30T05:58:00Z</published>
      <updated>2007-07-30T06:02:03Z</updated>
      <author>
            <name>Shaun Groves</name>
            <email>shaunfanmail@bellsouth.net</email>
            <uri>http://shaungroves.com</uri>      </author>

      <category term="Music Business"
        scheme="http://www.shaungroves.com/music/C43/"
        label="Music Business" />
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        <p>I was at a music industry event tonight and a guy with decades of experience in the business says something like &#8220;Record labels will soon be as relevant as travel agencies.&#8221;
</p>
<p>
Orbitz killed the travel agent.&nbsp; What&#8217;s coming (or already here) to kill the record label?&nbsp; That was the topic of discussion.&nbsp; 
</p>
<p>
What do you think?&nbsp; Is the sky falling or are tales of label demise greatly exaggerated?
</p> 
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    </entry>

    <entry>
      <title>But First Maybe</title>
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      <published>2007-07-01T02:29:00Z</published>
      <updated>2007-07-01T02:51:13Z</updated>
      <author>
            <name>Shaun Groves</name>
            <email>shaunfanmail@bellsouth.net</email>
            <uri>http://shaungroves.com</uri>      </author>

      <category term="Audio"
        scheme="http://www.shaungroves.com/music/C36/"
        label="Audio" />
      <category term="How To: Writing"
        scheme="http://www.shaungroves.com/music/C44/"
        label="How To: Writing" />
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        <p>I have to write some very commercial music for my next CD eventually.&nbsp; Don&#8217;t argue with me.&nbsp; It has to be done.&nbsp; And that&#8217;s not a bad thing.&nbsp; But before I do that, I have to write this other stuff.
</p>
<p>
It&#8217;s what&#8217;s in the pipes when the creative juices get turned on.&nbsp; And they&#8217;ve been turned on this week.&nbsp; It&#8217;s the unattractive sludge - confessions, prayers, worries, fears.&nbsp; They all come spewing out first.&nbsp; Then, when all that&#8217;s out of my system, I&#8217;m freed up to write whatever I want...within the bounds of my actual skill level at the moment.
</p>
<p>
What&#8217;s come out first is a song called &#8220;Maybe.&#8221;  I guess it&#8217;s the product of many months&#8217; worry.&nbsp; I&#8217;ve wondered if I&#8217;m supposed to keep making music or not, and while those are sitting in the corner minding their own business at the moment, I&#8217;ve written about them.
</p>
<p>
This is what music was for me before a record deal: my confessional, a secret therapy, the megaphone I prayed through.&nbsp; It&#8217;s been a couple years since it was that for me again.&nbsp; I&#8217;m glad its back.
</p>
<p>
So, this is &#8220;Maybe&#8221; - one verse and one chorus.&nbsp; Don&#8217;t know if there&#8217;ll be more.
</p>
<p>
<b>HOW IT CAME:</b>
<br />
The verse melody came first with a first line for the lyric.&nbsp; All at once driving home from the movies last night.&nbsp; I called home and left that much on the answering machine.&nbsp; Then I played with the verse melody all day in my head while I did other stuff like play with kids and eat lunch.&nbsp; Then, one of the times I played the verse through in my mind the melody kept going into what has become the chorus now.&nbsp; I thought maybe it was a prechorus.&nbsp; But it was too long.&nbsp; And big enough to stand alone.&nbsp; WIth a verse melody, a first line, and a chorus, I sat down this afternoon to write the rest of the lyric.&nbsp; It didn&#8217;t take more than an hour, which makes me wonder if it&#8217;s all that good yet.&nbsp; But it feels good to sing it so for now I&#8217;ll leave it alone.
</p>
<p>
I&#8217;ll work on it more someday and post any revisions I make.&nbsp; Enjoy.
</p>
<p>
<b>MAYBE</b>
<br />
<i>Words and Music by Shaun Groves
<br />
(C) 2007 Dadgum Music (admin by Brentwood-Benson Music Publishing)/ASCAP</i>
</p>
<p>
Verse 1:
<br />
Maybe
<br />
Maybe I’m a has been that just never was
<br />
Four chords and melody sung just because
<br />
Just because
<br />
Just because it’s all I can do
</p>
<p>
Maybe
<br />
Yea, maybe I should go another way
<br />
Put my six string up for other days
<br />
Other days
<br />
Other days much better than these
</p>
<p>
Chorus:
<br />
Or maybe
<br />
Maybe you would like to interject
<br />
Before I make a change and make a mess
<br />
Haven’t you got anything to say
<br />
Before I close this door and walk away
<br />
Maybe you could burn a bush or two
<br />
Any miracle or whisper now will do
<br />
Please open up, say anything to me
<br />
Anything to me
<br />
But maybe
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    <entry>
      <title>She Don&#8217;t Know It Yet Is Finished</title>
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      <published>2007-06-28T01:53:00Z</published>
      <updated>2007-06-28T02:04:33Z</updated>
      <author>
            <name>Shaun Groves</name>
            <email>shaunfanmail@bellsouth.net</email>
            <uri>http://shaungroves.com</uri>      </author>

      <category term="How To: Music"
        scheme="http://www.shaungroves.com/music/C41/"
        label="How To: Music" />
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        <p>Here&#8217;s the final version of my first ever country song &#8221;<a href="http://www.shaungroves.com/music/comments/she_dont_know_it_yet/">She Don&#8217;t Know It Yet</a>&#8221; written by Brian White, Don Poythress and me.&nbsp; Don&#8217;s the one singing on the work tape.&nbsp; And the work tape is nicer than usual because I used my new <a href="http://www.amazon.com/gp/redirect.html?ie=UTF8&amp;location=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.amazon.com%2FZoom-Recorder-Player-Monitor-Headphones%2Fdp%2FB000REPSQU%3Fie%3DUTF8%26s%3Delectronics%26qid%3D1182995795%26sr%3D1-1&amp;tag=shaungroves-20&amp;linkCode=ur2&amp;camp=1789&amp;creative=9325">Zoom H4</a><img src="http://www.assoc-amazon.com/e/ir?t=shaungroves-20&amp;l=ur2&amp;o=1" width="1" height="1" border="0" alt="" style="border:none !important; margin:0px !important;" /> recorder. (Thanks for the buying advice, <a href="http://www.ragamuffinsoul.com">Carlos</a>.)
</p>
<p>
I&#8217;m not very good at collaboration, but this time it was worth making myself do the uncomfortable.&nbsp; We write again in a couple weeks.
</p>
<blockquote><p>She Don’t Know it Yet
<br />
White / Poythress / Groves
</p>
<p>
Miracle in flip flops 
<br />
In the frontyard spinin like atop
<br />
Two years old and not a care
<br />
With golden hair
</p>
<p>
Wonder in her big brown eyes
<br />
Purple snowcone smile
<br />
She stands on daddies feet to dance
<br />
Around her room
<br />
She’ll  grow up so soon
</p>
<p>
And she don’t know it yet
<br />
Ponytails don’t last
<br />
And the days of hide and seek
<br />
And Barbie dolls will pass
<br />
She don’t know it yet
<br />
That tiny heart in her
<br />
Is gonna learn to love
<br />
Gonna learn to hurt
<br />
Daisy chains and swings ain’t all you get
<br />
She don’t know it yet
</p>
<p>
Feels thin and too tall
<br />
Braces don’t help at all
<br />
Seventeen and insecure
<br />
It’s a scary world
</p>
<p>
Homecoming and no one asked
<br />
How’s she gonna live down that
<br />
She’s caught somewhere in between
<br />
The girl she was
<br />
And all she’ll be
</p>
<p>
She don’t know it yet
<br />
Prom night pictures fade
<br />
Like yearbook memories
<br />
She’ll quickly turn the page
<br />
She don’t know it yet
<br />
That fragile heart in her
<br />
Is gonna learn to love
<br />
Is gonna learn to hurt
<br />
Lonely nights and tears ain’t all you get
<br />
she don’t know it yet
</p>
<p>
But there’s a boy with a ring
<br />
And he’s nervous as can be
<br />
He’s gonna take her hand
<br />
Get down on one knee
</p>
<p>
She don’t know it yet
<br />
But the loneliness will leave
<br />
Love will take it’s place
<br />
Her heart will take wings
<br />
She don’t know it yet
<br />
But all her yesterdays
<br />
Dances, tears and dreams
<br />
Have led her to this place
<br />
She’ll look back without regret
<br />
But she don’t know it yet</p></blockquote> 
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    </entry>

    <entry>
      <title>Alternate Tuning</title>
      <link rel="alternate" type="text/html" href="http://www.shaungroves.com/music/comments/alternate_tuning/" />
      <id>tag:shaungroves.com,2007:index.php/9.1286</id>
      <published>2007-06-24T22:24:00Z</published>
      <updated>2007-06-25T14:25:46Z</updated>
      <author>
            <name>Shaun Groves</name>
            <email>shaunfanmail@bellsouth.net</email>
            <uri>http://shaungroves.com</uri>      </author>

      <category term="How To: Music"
        scheme="http://www.shaungroves.com/music/C41/"
        label="How To: Music" />
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        <p>I don&#8217;t tune my guitar in the standard way.&nbsp; And this confuses a lot of people.&nbsp; I get asked &#8220;How&#8217;s your guitar tuned?&#8221; more than anything else.&nbsp; More than &#8220;How&#8217;d you get your hair to do that?&#8221; or &#8220;Are you related to Sara Groves?&#8221;
</p>
<p>
So, here&#8217;s the answer.&nbsp; Here&#8217;s how I tune my guitar and how to play a few simple chords in that tuning.
</p>
<p>
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    </entry>

    <entry>
      <title>iLike</title>
      <link rel="alternate" type="text/html" href="http://www.shaungroves.com/music/comments/ilike/" />
      <id>tag:shaungroves.com,2007:index.php/9.1266</id>
      <published>2007-06-15T18:11:00Z</published>
      <updated>2007-06-15T18:13:24Z</updated>
      <author>
            <name>Shaun Groves</name>
            <email>shaunfanmail@bellsouth.net</email>
            <uri>http://shaungroves.com</uri>      </author>

      <category term="Marketing"
        scheme="http://www.shaungroves.com/music/C28/"
        label="Marketing" />
      <content type="html"><![CDATA[
        <p>Check out <a href="http://www.ilike.com">iLike</a>.&nbsp; Installing iLike&#8217;s &#8220;sidebar&#8221; on your computer uploads a list of your most played artists to their website and promotes those artists on the thousands of facebook and myspace users that have added an iLike widget to their pages.
</p> 
      ]]></content>
    </entry>

    <entry>
      <title>This Is What It Feels Like</title>
      <link rel="alternate" type="text/html" href="http://www.shaungroves.com/music/comments/this_is_what_it_feels_like/" />
      <id>tag:shaungroves.com,2007:index.php/9.1261</id>
      <published>2007-06-14T16:33:00Z</published>
      <updated>2007-06-14T16:39:10Z</updated>
      <author>
            <name>Shaun Groves</name>
            <email>shaunfanmail@bellsouth.net</email>
            <uri>http://shaungroves.com</uri>      </author>

      <category term="Musicians"
        scheme="http://www.shaungroves.com/music/C47/"
        label="Musicians" />
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        <p>...to hear your song on the radio for the first time.&nbsp; Congratulations to <a href="http://www.gotee.com/">Gotee</a>&#8216;s newest artist, <a href="http://profile.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=user.viewprofile&amp;friendID=14927836">Stephanie Smith</a>.&nbsp; 
</p>
<p>
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<p>
I&#8217;m hoping to interview her for a podcast in the future.&nbsp; She&#8217;s reportedly an amazing girl - only 23 - working at a Starbucks in Franklin, Tennessee and wooing radio at the same time.&nbsp; She spent three months working with a tribe in Africa before moving to Nashville, living on $1 a day, and getting her head put on straight.&nbsp; Now it&#8217;s in the music business.&nbsp; What a contrast.&nbsp; What a great conversation could be had.
</p> 
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    </entry>

    <entry>
      <title>She Don&#8217;t Know It Yet</title>
      <link rel="alternate" type="text/html" href="http://www.shaungroves.com/music/comments/she_dont_know_it_yet/" />
      <id>tag:shaungroves.com,2007:index.php/9.1259</id>
      <published>2007-06-14T01:31:01Z</published>
      <updated>2007-06-14T01:43:40Z</updated>
      <author>
            <name>Shaun Groves</name>
            <email>shaunfanmail@bellsouth.net</email>
            <uri>http://shaungroves.com</uri>      </author>

      <category term="How To: Music"
        scheme="http://www.shaungroves.com/music/C41/"
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        <p>The <a href="http://www.shaungroves.com/music/comments/country_today/">co-write with Brian White and Don Poythress</a> went well today.&nbsp; I brought them a completed chorus melody with hook and the basic premise of the song and we wrote from there.&nbsp; The hook is &#8220;She Don&#8217;t Know It Yet.&#8221;
</p>
<p>
Apparently, grammatically incorrect is good in country music.&nbsp; But sappy is not.&nbsp; So we struggled with how to write a song about a girl at age two, age seventeen, and age twenty-something, about her transformation from a carefree child to a teen full of insecurities and into a confident woman in love.&nbsp; How do you do that without being sappy?
</p>
<p>
We settled on being a little emotional but not to a Butterfly Kisses degree.&nbsp; I learned that sap keeps songs off the heavily male influenced country radio stations these days.&nbsp; I also learned that positive is bad at country radio.&nbsp; We had to add some darkness to the first chorus because of that, which meant sacrificing some of my own preferences and plans for the song, but that&#8217;s co-writing.&nbsp; 
</p>
<p>
You give and you give up and you hope you gave and gave up the right stuff.&nbsp; And you never know.&nbsp; That&#8217;s possibly the hardest part of a co-write for me.&nbsp; I always wonder if I could have done just as well or better by myself - not because I&#8217;m a great writer - I&#8217;m not - but because I&#8217;m a different writer from the guy(s) I&#8217;m in the room with.&nbsp; It&#8217;s hard to give up on my original vision and trust someone else&#8217;s vision instead.
</p>
<p>
This is probably why I don&#8217;t co-write often.&nbsp; OK, I haven&#8217;t co-written anything in seven years.&nbsp; I took a break.&nbsp; But I&#8217;m back.&nbsp; And I think what we came up with, when it&#8217;s finished next week, could be something great.&nbsp; We&#8217;ll see.&nbsp; I&#8217;ll post audio when I get it.&nbsp; For now, here&#8217;s the first verse and chorus.&nbsp; I forgot to write down the second one, which is my favorite.
</p>
<p>
She Don&#8217;t Know It Yet
<br />
Words and Music by Brian White, Don Poythress, Shaun Groves (Copyright 2007)
</p>
<p>
Verse 1:
<br />
A miracle in flip flops
<br />
In the yard Spinning like a top
<br />
Two years old and not a care
<br />
Golden hair
</p>
<p>
Wonder in her big brown eyes
<br />
Purple snowcone smile
<br />
She stands on daddy’s feet to dance
<br />
Around her room
<br />
She’ll grow up so soon
</p>
<p>
Chorus 1:
<br />
She don’t know it yet
<br />
Ponytails don’t last
<br />
Or games of hide and seek
<br />
And riding piggy back
<br />
She don’t know it yet
<br />
This tiny heart of hers
<br />
Is gonna learn to love
<br />
Is gonna learn to hurt
<br />
Daisy chains and swings ain’t all we get
<br />
But she don’t know it yet
</p> 
      ]]></content>
    </entry>

    <entry>
      <title>Country Today</title>
      <link rel="alternate" type="text/html" href="http://www.shaungroves.com/music/comments/country_today/" />
      <id>tag:shaungroves.com,2007:index.php/9.1255</id>
      <published>2007-06-13T15:53:00Z</published>
      <updated>2007-06-13T16:05:22Z</updated>
      <author>
            <name>Shaun Groves</name>
            <email>shaunfanmail@bellsouth.net</email>
            <uri>http://shaungroves.com</uri>      </author>

      <category term="How To: Music"
        scheme="http://www.shaungroves.com/music/C41/"
        label="How To: Music" />
      <category term="Music Business"
        scheme="http://www.shaungroves.com/music/C43/"
        label="Music Business" />
      <content type="html"><![CDATA[
        <p>I&#8217;m writing country music today.&nbsp; This afternoon I&#8217;ll sit in a small room with my guitar and a piano and two great writers: Brian White (<a href="http://www.cowboylyrics.com/lyrics/adkins-trace/rough-&amp;-ready-11387.html">Rough and Ready</a> and <a href="http://www.cowboylyrics.com/lyrics/atkins-rodney/watching-you-17224.html">Watching You</a>) and Don Poythress (<a href="http://www.cowboylyrics.com/lyrics/nelson-willie/you-remain-10287.html">You Remain</a> and <a href="http://www.lyricsfreak.com/t/tim+mcgraw/comfort+me_20137407.html">Comfort Me</a>).
</p>
<p>
Between them they&#8217;ve written for everyone from <a href="http://www.willienelson.com">Willie Nelson</a> and <a href="http://www.traceadkins.com">Trace Adkins</a> to <a href="http://www.sherylcrow.com">Sheryl Crow</a> and <a href="http://www.cliffrichard.org/">Sir Cliff Richard</a> to <a href="http://www.avalonlive.com/">Avalon</a> and <a href="http://www.michaelenglishmusic.com">Michael English</a>.&nbsp; I&#8217;m out of my league and I know it.&nbsp; And thankful I have friends like Brian White willing to take a risk on me like this.
</p>
<p>
I&#8217;m coming prepared with a couple melodies and a couple lyrical hooks to write around.&nbsp; My hope is something I bring to these guys will jump start the makings of a great song.&nbsp; You never know though.&nbsp; That&#8217;s the frustrating thing about co-writing for me.&nbsp; Sometimes lightning strikes and two or three guys whip out a song faster and better than they could alone.&nbsp; Other times the chemistry isn&#8217;t right, the ideas fly but fall short again and again, and you leave with nothing to show for hours of music making.
</p>
<p>
I&#8217;ll post later this week about how it goes and maybe even be able to post a rough draft of whatever we create.&nbsp; Let&#8217;s see how it goes first.
</p> 
      ]]></content>
    </entry>

    <entry>
      <title>The Year of Country</title>
      <link rel="alternate" type="text/html" href="http://www.shaungroves.com/music/comments/the_year_of_country/" />
      <id>tag:shaungroves.com,2007:index.php/9.1235</id>
      <published>2007-06-06T15:41:00Z</published>
      <updated>2007-06-06T15:53:45Z</updated>
      <author>
            <name>Shaun Groves</name>
            <email>shaunfanmail@bellsouth.net</email>
            <uri>http://shaungroves.com</uri>      </author>

      <category term="Audio"
        scheme="http://www.shaungroves.com/music/C36/"
        label="Audio" />
      <category term="How To: Music"
        scheme="http://www.shaungroves.com/music/C41/"
        label="How To: Music" />
      <category term="Music Business"
        scheme="http://www.shaungroves.com/music/C43/"
        label="Music Business" />
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        <p>Back in January I declared 2007 the Year of Country Music.&nbsp; The goal?&nbsp; To write country songs and get them recorded and, as a result, make a lot of money.&nbsp; Why?&nbsp; One top 40 country &#8220;hit&#8221; is worth approximately six years of number one songs on Adult Christian radio and that kind of cash would allow me to give my own music away and play concerts for free easily...quite easily.
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<p>
I have a couple friends who&#8217;ve made it big in the country writing scene and they&#8217;ve offered to co-write with me so, here we go.
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<p>
I sit down to write a song every day.&nbsp; Not an entire song, actually, but some piece of one at least.&nbsp; And lately what&#8217;s been coming out quite easily is country pop, which, as it turns out, sounds a lot like 4Him in the early nineties.&nbsp; Go figure.&nbsp; It&#8217;s an easy sound to channel lately.&nbsp; So I&#8217;m going with it.&nbsp; 
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<p>
Soon I&#8217;ll sit in a room with country lyricists and melodists and we&#8217;ll work on one or all of these snippets I&#8217;ve coughed up recently and, hopefully, one of them will become a big fat hairy hit.
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<p>
The thing is, some musicians consider this selling out, sacrificing art for wealth.&nbsp; Well, yea.&nbsp; My question?&nbsp; Why is that a moral no no?&nbsp; Why is it wrong, to some, to use talent in a way that draws a large crowd, that sells out: sells out theatres, stadiums, etc?&nbsp; Why, especially when the resulting plunder is used for good, is this morally repulsive to some more &#8220;artful&#8221; musicians?&nbsp; What if &#8220;art&#8221; were suddenly more popular than country top 40?&nbsp; Would it be &#8220;selling out&#8221; to make it then?
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<p>
While we ponder these and other not-so-important questions, here&#8217;s today&#8217;s snippet of sell-out goodness, sans lyrics.
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    </entry>

    <entry>
      <title>The Downside To Free</title>
      <link rel="alternate" type="text/html" href="http://www.shaungroves.com/music/comments/the_downside_to_free/" />
      <id>tag:shaungroves.com,2007:index.php/9.1234</id>
      <published>2007-06-05T16:00:00Z</published>
      <updated>2007-06-05T17:06:39Z</updated>
      <author>
            <name>Shaun Groves</name>
            <email>shaunfanmail@bellsouth.net</email>
            <uri>http://shaungroves.com</uri>      </author>

      <category term="Self&#45;Promotion"
        scheme="http://www.shaungroves.com/music/C27/"
        label="Self&#45;Promotion" />
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        <p>The upside to playing shows on behalf of Compassion International at no cost to promoters is that I&#8217;m busier than ever.&nbsp; We&#8217;re averaging twice as many shows each month than we did wen charging promoters.&nbsp; But there is a downside.&nbsp; ANd it&#8217;s become a problem.
</p>
<p>
Some promoters book me now because free gives them a chance to put on a show for their church or city without risking anything.&nbsp; The thing is that risk is what makes promoters work hard to get butts in the seats, it turns out, and without risk we&#8217;re discovering that some first time promoters do a less than stellar job of promoting.
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<p>
Promoters who&#8217;ve been in the concert business for years realize that you can&#8217;t over promoter a show.&nbsp; It&#8217;s impossible.&nbsp; And they know that even huge acts won&#8217;t draw a crowd if posters are all that&#8217;s getting the word out.&nbsp; And full-time promoters, who pay thousands of dollars to bring artists, MUST draw a crowd or they don&#8217;t eat.
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<p>
This is the downside of free: Our clientel has become almost entirely first time promoters trying their hand at promoting at no financial risk to themselves and doing, sometimes, a not so good job of getting people there.
</p>
<p>
We&#8217;ve played for less than fifty people on this tour in cities where we usually pack the place out with several hundred.&nbsp; As we&#8217;ve tried to figure out why, I decided to post this list of things promoters may want to do to over-promote our upcoming shows and I want to ask any promoters out there reading this to please share their ideas in the comments of this post.&nbsp; Here&#8217;s a small list of things that can and probably should be done to promote a show:
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<p>
1. DON&#8217;T spend money on radio ads.&nbsp; They don&#8217;t work.&nbsp; It is very expensive and, in our experience over the last seven years, promoters never get a boost in attendance because of them. DO ask the local radio station to interview the artist during drive time.&nbsp; This, for some reason, does seem to help.&nbsp; The best bang from radio is having the station as an official sponsor of the show.&nbsp; When the radio station&#8217;s name is on the show, so to speak, they tend to talk non-stop about the show during every time slot of the day.&nbsp; Stations usually won&#8217;t sponsor a show unless they benefit financially from it, which won&#8217;t be the case if the ticket price is FREE.
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<p>
2. Mail posters and bulletin inserts to churches but call them first to make sure they will use them.&nbsp; This saves you printing money too.&nbsp; Then call the churches to make sure they received them and ask how and when they will be used.&nbsp; Visit the churches to see if they were in fact used the way they were supposed to be.&nbsp; Doesn&#8217;t seem like you&#8217;d need to do this but trust me, you do.&nbsp; There are a million things going on in the life of a church, zillions of activities and promotions going on.&nbsp; You have to kindly make sure your concert is getting the wall time and announcement time you were told it would get.
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<p>
3. Ask Christian owned businesses and restaurants to put up posters and stuff bags with flyers about the show.&nbsp; A fast food place serving a few thousand people a day can get the word out about a concert quickly doing this and by putting a &#8220;table talker&#8221; on every table.
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<p>
4. Ask local churches that are helping promote the show to mention the show in their newsletter to members.&nbsp; If the show is ticketed, offer a discount or a free ticket to people who print out a coupon printed in their bulletin or church newsletter.
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<p>
5. Get Christian organizations on college campuses to spread the word.&nbsp; Offer students a discount or a select area of seating (the first five rows, for instance.&nbsp; Fellowship of CHristian Athletes, Campus Crusade, the Baptist Student Ministries are all organizations that may be willing to tell their students about the show.
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<p>
6. Call the religion editor for the local paper and ask him/her if they&#8217;d like to interview the artist.
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<p>
7. Talk radio is a powerful tool for promotion that few think about.&nbsp; Many conservative talk show hosts are Christians and are open about that fact.&nbsp; Ask them if they&#8217;ll mention the show or interview the artist.&nbsp; Chances are slim since that&#8217;s not the point of their show but it&#8217;s worth a shot.
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<p>
8. Ask every blogger you know in your city to blog about the show a month out, then two weeks out, then the week of.&nbsp; You can find bloggers in your city by searching technorati for your city&#8217;s name.&nbsp; It&#8217;s along process but it can pay off.
</p>
<p>
9. Ask every person in your college and youth groups to promote the concert to their myspace friends.&nbsp; Most teens have a myspace space now and if each one has a dozen local friends that can add up quickly.
</p>
<p>
That&#8217;s just a few ideas that cost you nothing or very little.&nbsp; What other ideas do you have?
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    </entry>

    <entry>
      <title>An Insider&#8217;s Look At Christian Radio Pt.8: Who Is Becky Really</title>
      <link rel="alternate" type="text/html" href="http://www.shaungroves.com/music/comments/an_insiders_look_at_christian_radio_pt8_who_is_becky_really/" />
      <id>tag:shaungroves.com,2007:index.php/9.1149</id>
      <published>2007-05-31T16:13:00Z</published>
      <updated>2007-06-01T16:48:53Z</updated>
      <author>
            <name>Shaun Groves</name>
            <email>shaunfanmail@bellsouth.net</email>
            <uri>http://shaungroves.com</uri>      </author>

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        <p>"Becky&#8221; is the name the industry has given to the listener targeted by Adult Contemporary Christian radio stations.&nbsp; Here&#8217;s what radio stations freely admit about Becky:
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<p>
<li>She&#8217;s a Christian 35-40 year-old mother</li>
<li>She does the buying in her family</li>
<li>She&#8217;s in the mini-van a lot</li>
<li>Becky is an easier target than, say, her daughter (Brittany) or her husband (Bob), for advertisers to hit with radio ads</li>
<br />
Several years ago when I was on AC radio a great deal my audience was packed every night with Beckys.&nbsp; And I got to know her.&nbsp; We e-mailed back and forth.&nbsp; We stood in book stores and in church lobbies and shot the breeze.&nbsp; She introduced me to her kids.&nbsp; I played free shows at her favorite mall.&nbsp; We spent a lot of time together.&nbsp; There&#8217;s more to Becky than those four bullet points suggest.&nbsp; And radio stations know it.
</p>
<p>
I&#8217;ve seen industry research, spent time with radio program directors and consultants and they paint a more complete picture of Becky - they know what I know and they have the numbers to prove it.&nbsp; Becky is not all Christian women 35-40 years old driving a mini-van, listening to commercials and doing most of the shopping in her house.&nbsp; She can be described in even more detail.
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<p>
One industry study commissioned by a network found that Becky (the woman actually listening to Christian radio) is more likely to be from the most conservative end of the Christian spectrum than the average church goer.&nbsp; It used Barna&#8217;s method of dividing all self-professing Christians in America into several groups from most liberal (all ways lead to God, the bible isn&#8217;t God&#8217;s Word, Jesus may not have actually existed, etc) to most conservative.&nbsp; The study said - and I&#8217;m having to post this from memory because now non one will let me see the study again - that lest than 15% of self-professing Christians in America are in t the most conservative category.&nbsp; BUT - and this is when the light bulb came on for me - they are the MAJORITY of Christian radio listeners.&nbsp; Just over 50%.
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<p>
Now, this was three years ago.&nbsp; Things may have changed.&nbsp; And how scientific the study was I don&#8217;t know.&nbsp; But I know my experiences with Becky confirm the assertion that, in general, Becky is far more conservative than the majority of Christians in churches every Sunday.&nbsp; And, here&#8217;s the rub, far more conservative than me and the rest of the music folks in Nashville.&nbsp; Not just in their faith, but in all things: parenting, politics, gender roles, etc.
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<p>
Consider this.&nbsp; 
</p>
<p>
Becky probably doesn&#8217;t drink or like those who do. If a morning show host were to even allude to drinking on his show, what would happen?&nbsp; I&#8217;ve been on a dozen artists&#8217; tour buses though and ALL OF THEM had alcohol in the fridge.&nbsp; Every industry party I&#8217;ve been to - after Dove parties, Christmas parties - have had open bars.
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<p>
Becky reads Lucado.&nbsp; I love Lamott.&nbsp; She&#8217;s stretched by Rick Warren.&nbsp; I&#8217;m stretched by Beuchner and Bonhoeffer.&nbsp; I&#8217;m not superior, not smarter, not more spiritual, just different.&nbsp; We&#8217;re not interested in or thinking in the same way about the same things.
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<p>
Becky doesn&#8217;t cuss and would not consider a cussing person to be godly - someone she should listen to.&nbsp; But she does without knowing it.&nbsp; Let&#8217;s just say that artists on AC radio aren&#8217;t always safe for the whole family - just when they&#8217;re in public. 
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<p>
Becky&#8217;s more likely to have strong feelings about the flag, patriotism, our rights as Christians, the evilness of Halloween and &#8220;Happy Holidays&#8221; and to subscribe to James Dobson&#8217;s newsletter.&nbsp; I&#8217;m, um, not.&nbsp; At all.&nbsp; I refused once on the air to say the pledge of allegiance.&nbsp; I wasn&#8217;t a jerk about it.&nbsp; I just said I&#8217;m thankful to live in America and for all that affords me but I just don&#8217;t pledge allegiance to the flag. I tried to laugh it off.&nbsp; I offered to pray and thank God for America instead but it didn&#8217;t matter.&nbsp; Becky was already ticked. Becky likes to hear patriotic songs and patriotic songs on the radio.&nbsp; She confuses love of nation with love of Jesus.&nbsp; Why else would songs like &#8220;There She Stands&#8221; and &#8220;Letters From War&#8221; be played?&nbsp; What do they really have to do with the mission of the station?&nbsp; Everything.&nbsp; They attract Becky.&nbsp; Then Becky buys stuff.
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<p>
Even the denominations Becky tends toward are different from those of industry folks.&nbsp; There are a lot of Baptist Beckys.&nbsp; And Assemblies of God and non-denominational Becky&#8217;s.&nbsp; She&#8217;s what some would call &#8220;Evangelical.&#8221;  For the longest time the two churches where most artists living in Nashville went were Presbyterian.&nbsp; That&#8217;s changed some in recent years but still, you get the idea when talking to artists about their faith and growing up in church that they don&#8217;t worship alongside Becky on Sunday morning.
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<p>
For longest time I didn&#8217;t get this.&nbsp; I didn&#8217;t understand that Becky isn&#8217;t all females 35-40, she&#8217;s all very conservative white evangelical patriotic too-busy-or-lzay-or-tired to think females.&nbsp; So, I went around telling radio guys that I don&#8217;t know any 35-40 year old church going females who like Christian music.&nbsp; I told this to Matt Austin, station manager of WAY-FM in Nashville.&nbsp; He was my Sunday school teacher at the time and we were having a party.&nbsp; Our entire class of 25-40 year-olds were there, grilling hot dogs, throwing frisbees, relaxing and listening to the radio.&nbsp; The host had turned it to WAY-FM, she told me, because Matt was there.
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<p>
I married a woman who fits the simplest description of Becky.&nbsp; She&#8217;s thirty-seven.&nbsp; She has three kids (6, 4, 2).&nbsp; She&#8217;s white.&nbsp; She drives a mini-van. She&#8217;s too busy driving and negotiating peace in the back seat to change the station when commercials come on. She handles our finances and does most of the shopping. She attends church regularly.
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<p>
But she doesn&#8217;t like Christian radio.&nbsp; Nor do any of our many many friends who also fit the this description of Becky. (And no, none of them are musicians or married to any.)
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<p>
For good reason.
</p>
<p>
She&#8217;s not the Becky radio is after.&nbsp; She loves God.&nbsp; She loves people.&nbsp; But she doesn&#8217;t see how Christian radio plays any part in making her better at either task.&nbsp; She doesn&#8217;t like that it&#8217;s humor is sappy, its agenda is sometimes political and it&#8217;s music all sounds the same. If anything, it tempts her to consume more crap she doesn&#8217;t need, care about things that aren&#8217;t truly important to Jesus, and fill her head with what she thinks says the same things over and over again.
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<p>
My Becky isn&#8217;t interested in Christian radio.&nbsp; And radio doesn&#8217;t care.&nbsp; Nor should they.&nbsp; She&#8217;s not the real target.
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      ]]></content>
    </entry>

    <entry>
      <title>Fair Trade Versus Free</title>
      <link rel="alternate" type="text/html" href="http://www.shaungroves.com/music/comments/fair_trade_versus_free/" />
      <id>tag:shaungroves.com,2007:index.php/9.1211</id>
      <published>2007-05-18T13:53:00Z</published>
      <updated>2007-05-18T14:52:19Z</updated>
      <author>
            <name>Shaun Groves</name>
            <email>shaunfanmail@bellsouth.net</email>
            <uri>http://shaungroves.com</uri>      </author>

      <category term="Music Business"
        scheme="http://www.shaungroves.com/music/C43/"
        label="Music Business" />
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        <p><a href="http://www.shaungroves.com/shlog/comments/sorta_free_mockingbird/">We&#8217;ve talked about this before over on Shlog</a>.&nbsp; I don&#8217;t think trading music for five e-mail addresses is the same thing as offering music for free.&nbsp; Free, to me, means no strings attached, nothing in exchange.
</p>
<p>
But that doesn&#8217;t make it wrong, or a bad idea.&nbsp; In fact, trading fans something for music is brilliant.
</p>
<p>
<a href="http://www.derekwebb.com">Derek Webb</a> and friends are taking this idea farther.&nbsp; Check out <a href="http://www.noisetrade.com">noisetrade.com</a>.
</p>
<p>
Grab some popcorn.&nbsp; You&#8217;ll be sitting a while.&nbsp; Derek is brilliant, but brief he is not.
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      ]]></content>
    </entry>

    <entry>
      <title>Derek Webb Doesn&#8217;t Like It</title>
      <link rel="alternate" type="text/html" href="http://www.shaungroves.com/music/comments/derek_webb_doesnt_like_it/" />
      <id>tag:shaungroves.com,2007:index.php/9.1209</id>
      <published>2007-05-16T13:29:00Z</published>
      <updated>2007-05-16T13:31:59Z</updated>
      <author>
            <name>Shaun Groves</name>
            <email>shaunfanmail@bellsouth.net</email>
            <uri>http://shaungroves.com</uri>      </author>

      <category term="Music Business"
        scheme="http://www.shaungroves.com/music/C43/"
        label="Music Business" />
      <category term="Musicians"
        scheme="http://www.shaungroves.com/music/C47/"
        label="Musicians" />
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        <p><a href="http://www.derekwebb.com">Derek Webb</a> doesn&#8217;t like the Christian music industry.&nbsp; The very idea of it.&nbsp; He says so in his latest podcast.&nbsp; Here are some quotes:
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<blockquote><p>“I don’t think a lot of marketing yourself, promoting yourself based on your world view. It doesn’t make any sense.”
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<p>
“I’d much rather just be able to make music and not have expectations based on my worldview on it, because no one else has to deal with that.&nbsp; It’s been hard for me to deal with that.&nbsp; It’s kept me from being honest a few times.&nbsp; Because I’m afraid of, or I know that I won’t be able to get away with, really doing or saying or really creating art I have in me to do but I know is not going to work.&nbsp; I know I’m not going to be able to get away with it.&nbsp; And the only reason I can’t get away with it is because I’m in a market that promotes me based on my worldview…I’m first a Christian for some reason.&nbsp; Like I can’t just be an artist and be honest.&nbsp; I have to be a Christian artist. So immediately I’m judged by that first.”
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<p>
“I think Christianity is disparaged, like the idea, the world view of Christianity, the idea of following Jesus, is seen as not a very good idea based on the bad art that people make under the heading of Christian art.&nbsp; I think people see bad Christian art and it makes them less likely to want to even take a look at the person of Jesus and what it means to follow Him.”
</p>
<p>
“I think churches are bad concert venues…I don’t playing in churches.&nbsp; I don’t subjecting churches to having to have concerts.”
</p>
<p>
“If you want to just sing songs just go and do that, no one’s stopping you.”</p></blockquote>
<p>
What do you think?
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